{"id":1184524,"date":"2023-03-07T12:12:47","date_gmt":"2023-03-07T17:12:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/survivor-jeff-gundlach-live-webcast\/1184524\/"},"modified":"2023-03-07T12:12:47","modified_gmt":"2023-03-07T17:12:47","slug":"survivor-jeff-gundlach-live-webcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/survivor-jeff-gundlach-live-webcast\/1184524\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Survivor&#8221;: Jeff Gundlach Live Webcast"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"ftpimagefix\" style=\"float:left\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/markets\/survivor-jeff-gundlach-live-webcast\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"100\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"4916d122-215b-4ca4-8986-87a98fe4e125\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/survivor%20gundlach.jpg?itok=gnz0k49e\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p><span class=\"field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden\">&#8220;Survivor&#8221;: Jeff Gundlach Live Webcast<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item\">\n<p>As if there wasn&#8217;t enough drama today, here is Jeff Gundlach who hardly needs an introduction, with his latest live DoubleLine webcast (<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/urldefense.com\/v3\/__https:\/event.webcasts.com\/starthere.jsp?ei=1567219&amp;tp_key=e7ebdb56f0__;!!OfrnovttFxw!plzZqKhwGCAPTL5xiIBn1yw_kgfyroWegSxGK-gHjnRBKpesySPjt8rJ5plKkzHxhlIk_1yZUBfuI3Bm%24\" rel=\"noopener\">register here <\/a>or click on the image below).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>We doubt the always outspoken portfolio manager will be at a loss what to discuss in his latest webcast titled &#8220;survivor&#8221;, especially after Powell&#8217;s market moving testimony, but one thing we would ask is if Gundlach still believes, as he did at the start of the year, that the Fed will not hike above 5%.<\/p>\n<p>Gundlach, extolling his ability to survive in any market, starts off by presenting a chart he hasn&#8217;t shown in a while, the US Federal Budget Balance, saying that it is something that has to be addressed by 2028 as it&#8217;s getting out of control.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/fed%20budget%20balance.jpg?itok=WPgR8y4O\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/fed%20budget%20balance.jpg?itok=WPgR8y4O\" rel=\"noopener\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Echoing what we said just this morning, Gundlach says that a big part of the budget deficit is because the Fed is now a drain of cash, having to pay almost $1 billion in interest (on IOER and Reverse Repos) to the various banks that have trillions parked at the Fed.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-partner=\"tweetdeck\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\" xml:lang=\"en\">Chair Powell, is it true that you are now paying $700MM every day in interest to banks, a number which will hit $800MM daily when rates hit 5.5%, resulting in record &#8220;unrealized losses&#8221; for US taxpayers? <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/7x9cP6OIY6\" rel=\"noopener\">pic.twitter.com\/7x9cP6OIY6<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 zerohedge (@zerohedge) <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/zerohedge\/status\/1633135198253596674?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"noopener\">March 7, 2023<\/a>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Gundlach then look at the magnitude in fiscal response to recessions, observing the &#8220;ever larger doses of opioids&#8221; required to fight downturns, which will be a problem when considering the ballooning debt and deficits.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/fiscal%20response%20to%20recession.jpg?itok=i5VU0NrB\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/fiscal%20response%20to%20recession.jpg?itok=i5VU0NrB\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"0845fcff-37d4-4edc-a6c0-0c4bc529fd06\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"367\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/fiscal%20response%20to%20recession.jpg?itok=i5VU0NrB\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The next chart speaks for itself: with government interest surging, Gundlach says that once the Fed hikes another 25bps or 50bps, this chart is going &#8220;straight vertical.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/us%20government%20interest%20bill%20surgbing.jpg?itok=xfUy4BdP\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/us%20government%20interest%20bill%20surgbing.jpg?itok=xfUy4BdP\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"92a84abe-26bd-481d-b854-1b8f888f48aa\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"357\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/us%20government%20interest%20bill%20surgbing.jpg?itok=xfUy4BdP\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Going back to one of his favorite topics, Gundlach says that <strong>the Fed (and specifically the Fed Funds rate) should be ended, and replaced with the 2Y Treasury. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/FOMC%20vs%202Yr.jpg?itok=HJgTopGw\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/FOMC%20vs%202Yr.jpg?itok=HJgTopGw\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"02a7e670-0f6c-48c9-b0d0-08561b555750\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"332\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/FOMC%20vs%202Yr.jpg?itok=HJgTopGw\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A novel visualization of the accelerating yield curve inversion which today hit -104bps on the 2s10s.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/FOMC%20vs%202Yr_0.jpg?itok=TJHXux_l\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/FOMC%20vs%202Yr_0.jpg?itok=TJHXux_l\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"39c845ea-d0cb-4798-a027-2a7ee0661737\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"332\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/FOMC%20vs%202Yr_0.jpg?itok=TJHXux_l\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Another of Gundlach&#8217;s favorite charts: copper\/gold ratio vs 10Y TSYs. Based on this he calculates that the 10Y yield is 100bps too high.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/copper%20gold%20ratio%20vs%2010y.jpg?itok=F-9BTXWy\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/copper%20gold%20ratio%20vs%2010y.jpg?itok=F-9BTXWy\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"56a527aa-0949-49bd-bbf2-480c57c420fd\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"375\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/copper%20gold%20ratio%20vs%2010y.jpg?itok=F-9BTXWy\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Turning to economic cycles, Gundlach looks at the Leading Econ Indicators and speculates that we may already be some 2 months into a recession&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/LEI%20vs%20recessions.jpg?itok=POtYgax-\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/LEI%20vs%20recessions.jpg?itok=POtYgax-\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"5f54ddd9-3ced-41bb-ad32-60be1f33443b\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"362\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/LEI%20vs%20recessions.jpg?itok=POtYgax-\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; something which the ISM PMI also strongly suggests.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/ISM%20PMI%20vs%20recessions.jpg?itok=awS2Dw01\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/ISM%20PMI%20vs%20recessions.jpg?itok=awS2Dw01\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"0030cf3b-0355-4ffe-b7bc-099587fe538e\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"367\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/ISM%20PMI%20vs%20recessions.jpg?itok=awS2Dw01\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And then there is of course the 2s10s yield curve which as of today is a whopping 104bps! The silver lining here is that the curve hasn&#8217;t started to steepen just yet: and every recession sees a powerful steepening before it starts.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/2s10s%20recession%201.jpg?itok=CGyfJEbl\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/2s10s%20recession%201.jpg?itok=CGyfJEbl\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"870ed75e-0a4c-4c94-8970-2617707c3692\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"373\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/2s10s%20recession%201.jpg?itok=CGyfJEbl\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Another timing indicator: consumer expectations less current situation&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/consumer%20expectations%20less%20current%20situation.jpg?itok=OqBhQktH\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/consumer%20expectations%20less%20current%20situation.jpg?itok=OqBhQktH\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"0b470b47-ed40-4e5e-bde5-50649bce0c68\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"366\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/consumer%20expectations%20less%20current%20situation.jpg?itok=OqBhQktH\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; and consumer credit, both of which are ominously red cycle.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/consumer%20credit%202023-03-07_16-37-35.jpg?itok=sykn8fKp\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/consumer%20credit%202023-03-07_16-37-35.jpg?itok=sykn8fKp\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"1508f825-6a90-494b-b078-f8dc6bbdbb1a\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"368\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/consumer%20credit%202023-03-07_16-37-35.jpg?itok=sykn8fKp\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Another failsafe indicator and favorite of Gundlach is the spot unemployment rate vs the 12 month moving average &#8211; any time these lines cross, there is a recession.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/Unmp%20rate%20vs%2012%20MMA.jpg?itok=0faWuIX0\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/Unmp%20rate%20vs%2012%20MMA.jpg?itok=0faWuIX0\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"a71affa9-7bca-4ffa-bc53-4ab7bd9da135\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"362\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/Unmp%20rate%20vs%2012%20MMA.jpg?itok=0faWuIX0\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>And while they haven&#8217;t crossed yet, when one overlays the Bloomberg U-3 unemp consensus shows that we have just a few months before the two lines do cross.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" data-image-external-href=\"\" data-image-href=\"\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/Unemp%20rate%20and%20consensus%20forecasts.jpg?itok=EOl9vwfk\" data-link-option=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/Unemp%20rate%20and%20consensus%20forecasts.jpg?itok=EOl9vwfk\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-entity-type=\"file\" data-entity-uuid=\"fb33d1c4-7a96-48f4-bfc8-886e25781a55\" data-responsive-image-style=\"inline_images\" height=\"368\" width=\"500\" class=\"inline-images image-style-inline-images\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.zerohedge.com\/s3fs-public\/styles\/inline_image_mobile\/public\/inline-images\/Unemp%20rate%20and%20consensus%20forecasts.jpg?itok=EOl9vwfk\" alt=\"\"><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>      <span class=\"field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden\"><a target=\"_blank\" title=\"View user profile.\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/users\/tyler-durden\" lang=\"\" class=\"username\" xml:lang=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">Tyler Durden<\/a><\/span><br \/>\n<span class=\"field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden\">Tue, 03\/07\/2023 &#8211; 16:16<\/span><\/p>\n<p>From:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/markets\/survivor-jeff-gundlach-live-webcast\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zerohedge<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Survivor&#8221;: Jeff Gundlach Live Webcast As if there wasn&#8217;t enough drama today, here is Jeff Gundlach who hardly needs an introduction, with his latest live&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1184524","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news","wpcat-1-id"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1184524","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1184524"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1184524\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1184524"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1184524"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1184524"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}