{"id":1443175,"date":"2023-12-10T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-12-10T17:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/?p=1443175"},"modified":"2023-12-10T12:00:00","modified_gmt":"2023-12-10T17:00:00","slug":"no-nato-for-ukraine-ukrainian-politician-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/no-nato-for-ukraine-ukrainian-politician-says\/1443175\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;No NATO&#8221; For Ukraine, Ukrainian Politician Says"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"field field--name-title field--type-string field--label-hidden\">&#8220;No NATO&#8221; For Ukraine, Ukrainian Politician Says<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"clearfix text-formatted field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field__item\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/40036\/\"><em>Authored by Uriel Araujo via InfoBRICS,<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p>US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is pressuring European diplomats to cease any talks about Ukraine joining NATO, according to a member of Rada (the Ukrainian parliament), Oleksiy Goncharenko.<\/p>\n<p><strong>This is no minor politician.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The son of a former Odessa mayor, he is a member of the Ukrainian Permanent Delegation to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE). The allegations were publicly made in a series of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/oleksiihoncharenko\/38905\">texts<\/a>\u00a0posted in his Telegram channel (in Ukrainian). He wrote:<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>\u201cUnfortunately, there will be no NATO [for Ukraine]. Forget about it &#8211; it won&#8217;t happen.\u201d <\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/s3\/files\/inline-images\/2023-12-09_12-39-09.jpg?itok=dHbgQc5Q\"><\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Goncharenko claims that \u201cseveral sources\u201d in Washington told him the topic of Ukraine\u2019s accession to the Atlantic Alliance \u201cannoys the US elite\u201d <\/strong>and even \u201cafter war\u201d the country should not expect it.<\/p>\n<p>The politician also\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/oleksiihoncharenko\/38916\">commented<\/a>\u00a0on the ongoing friction between the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and\u00a0 Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Valery Zaluzhny. According to Goncharenko, Washington is \u201cnot happy\u201d about it. In addition, he says, one should expect the next aid package to Ukraine to be the last one: \u201cIn a year, at the end of 2024, we will not be given any more money\u2026 Most likely, we will switch to a credit form of cooperation. They\u2019ll give a loan. Not a grant that won\u2019t need to be repaid.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Could such allegations be a fabrication created for propaganda purposes? <\/strong>There is no reason to think so and the logic of it in this case would be far from clear. In fact, Goncharenko\u2019s claims make perfect sense in light of what we already know by now.<\/p>\n<p>We know the US has been\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/39920\/\">pressuring its ally to hold elections<\/a>. Moreover, the US Mission to NATO last month\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/USNATO\/status\/1726615865980813706\">posted<\/a>\u00a0on X (formerly Twitter) a vague message about Washington being \u201cfocused on setting the conditions for a just, durable, and sustainable peace\u201d in Ukraine. We also know that European Union (EU) member states are\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/870922b9-fb37-4907-b806-89e034924d3f\">divided<\/a>\u00a0over the bloc\u2019s common budget, including additional funding for Kyiv in 2024.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In addition, Pulitzer winner journalist Seymour Hersh has\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/seymourhersh.substack.com\/p\/general-to-general\">written<\/a>\u00a0that, according to his American diplomacy and intelligence sources, the aforementioned General Valery Zaluzhny has been directly\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/39995\">negotiating a peace deal<\/a>\u00a0with Russian general Valery Gerasimov, independently of Zelensky, who is described as a \u201cwild card\u201d. <\/strong>According to the journalist: \u201cThe two generals may continue to talk and Putin may indeed be interested in a settlement that gives him permanent control of Crimea and the four provinces he has claimed, but Zelensky remains the wild card. The American official said that Zelensky has been told that \u201cthis is a military-to-military problem to solve and the talks will go on with or without you.\u201d If necessary, the American official told me, \u201cWe can finance his voyage to the Caribbean\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>We know that the unprecedented sanctions against the Russian Federation have been backfiring since the beginning, with the Eurasian great power\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/35776\">reaching record trade surplus<\/a>\u00a0as early as May 2022.<\/strong> That has sparked\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/36246\/\">division<\/a>\u00a0within the European continent, and how\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/37437\">de-industralized<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.globalresearch.ca\/german-lawmakers-demand-nord-stream-explosion-investigation\/5810300\">post-Nord Stream Europe<\/a>\u00a0has been hurt by the ongoing conflict and by American\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/37216\/\">subsidy war<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>As early as April 2023, as I\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/38076\">wrote<\/a>, former US ambassador to Finland, Earle Mack wrote that the US-led West had been \u201cpropping up Ukraine to fight a proxy war\u201d but he could only see \u201ca decade of death and chaos\u201d for the country.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In May Zelensky was\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/world\/2023\/05\/13\/zelensky-ukraine-war-leaked-documents\/\">planning<\/a>\u00a0a number of bold actions against Russia,<\/strong> including bombing the Druzhba pipeline that provides Russian oil to Hungary (a NATO member), and even occupying Russian villages plus targeting the Russian Federation with long-range missiles. Such plans crossed some red lines and were a huge problem from the point of view of both the US and that of Ukraine\u2019s neighbors.<\/p>\n<p>That same month, aforementioned Serymour Hersh also\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/seymourhersh.substack.com\/p\/the-ukraine-refugee-question\">reported<\/a>\u00a0that countries such as Hungary, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, and the Czech Republic, led by Poland (with Germany playing some role in it too) had been <strong>pressuring the Ukrainian leader \u201cto find a way to end the war, even by resigning himself if necessary, and to allow the process of rebuilding his nation to get under way.\u201d<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/seymourhersh.substack.com\/p\/the-ukraine-refugee-question\">According to<\/a>\u00a0Hersh\u2019s CIA source at the time, these European leaders had \u201cmade it clear that \u2018Zelensky can keep what he\u2019s got &#8211; a villa in Italy and interests in offshore bank accounts &#8211; \u2018if he works up a peace deal even if he\u2019s got to be paid off, if it\u2019s the only way to get a deal\u2019.\u201d Few months later, in September, Poland\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/39441\/\">stopped sending Ukraine weapons<\/a>, allegedly over a trade dispute, as bilateral relations deteriorated.<\/p>\n<p>All of this points to a clear picture emerging, one that had been haunting Ukraine for a while: Western abandonment and betrayal &#8211; something of which Washington has\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/34295\">a solid record<\/a>. From an European perspective, the picture is even more dramatic: it is about the bloc\u2019s own interests. As I\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/34703\/\">wrote<\/a>, in December 2021, American and European energy interests are far from converging and in fact the energy crisis in that part of the Old World is something that has benefited Washington, while hurting its European allies &#8211; and the same can be said about the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/38076\">American proxy attrition war<\/a>\u00a0in Eastern Europe. It is about time to admit\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/35328\">NATO\u2019s expansion<\/a>\u00a0has been a recipe for disaster and about time to admit Ukraine has a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.globalresearch.ca\/whitewashing-neo-nazi-azov-battalion-encourages-far-right-forces\/5777176\">far-right<\/a>\u00a0problem and a problem with the way it deals with the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/33967\/\">Russian minority<\/a>\u00a0&#8211; and not just in\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/31487\/\">Donbass<\/a>. And all of that is a problem for Europe, too.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It remains to be seen how European leaders will conduct their policy pertaining to Ukraine and also to the strategic energy interests of the continent.<\/strong> One may expect many European voices urging the bloc to reconsider sanctions against Russia, for instance, as\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/36246\/\">has been the case<\/a>\u00a0already. For a start, it could reconsider its stance on the issue of the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/infobrics.org\/post\/39829\">rights of ethnic minorities<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>      <span class=\"field field--name-uid field--type-entity-reference field--label-hidden\"><a title=\"View user profile.\" href=\"https:\/\/cms.zerohedge.com\/users\/tyler-durden\" class=\"username\">Tyler Durden<\/a><\/span><br \/>\n<span class=\"field field--name-created field--type-created field--label-hidden\">Sun, 12\/10\/2023 &#8211; 07:00<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u200b<a href=\"https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/geopolitical\/no-nato-ukraine-ukrainian-politician-says\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/www.zerohedge.com\/geopolitical\/no-nato-ukraine-ukrainian-politician-says<\/a>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;No NATO&#8221; For Ukraine, Ukrainian Politician Says Authored by Uriel Araujo via InfoBRICS, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is pressuring European diplomats to cease&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1443175","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-news","wpcat-1-id"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pbimBl-63r1","jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1443175","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1443175"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1443175\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1443175"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1443175"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1443175"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}