{"id":1459865,"date":"2024-02-29T01:40:00","date_gmt":"2024-02-29T06:40:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/?p=1459865"},"modified":"2024-02-29T01:40:00","modified_gmt":"2024-02-29T06:40:00","slug":"americans-are-being-lied-to-about-ukraine-tucker-carlson-reflects-on-putin-zelensky-navalny-nuclear-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bugaluu.com\/news\/americans-are-being-lied-to-about-ukraine-tucker-carlson-reflects-on-putin-zelensky-navalny-nuclear-war\/1459865\/","title":{"rendered":"“Americans Are Being Lied To About Ukraine” – Tucker Carlson Reflects On Putin, Zelensky, Navalny & Nuclear War"},"content":{"rendered":"

“Americans Are Being Lied To About Ukraine” – Tucker Carlson Reflects On Putin, Zelensky, Navalny & Nuclear War<\/span><\/p>\n

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The international attacks on Tucker Carlson, especially from within US mainstream media and NATO-connected circles, have only increased following his hugely controversial eight day visit to Russia earlier this month where he interviewed President Vladimir Putin. Russian state media has even this week claimed authorities uncovered an\u00a0“assassination plot”<\/a>\u00a0– rumored to have been backed by Kiev.<\/p>\n

This week the former FOX prime time host was interviewed about his trip and the whole Putin interview experience in\u00a0three-hour podcast\u00a0hosted by Lex Fridman. Tucker Carlson revealed more about what motivated him to do the televised Putin segment, and further discussed his personal take on the Russia-Ukraine war and where it could go from here, now having entered its third year. Interestingly, Carlson’s main critique of the war focused not on Putin or the Kremlin’s actions in Ukraine, which of course are not under his control or influence, but on the impact to America<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Carlson explained that the West’s escalation of the conflict long ago into a full-blown proxy war has not only resulted in more needless Ukrainian deaths, but it has been devastating for the United States. “I reject the whole premise of the war in Ukraine from the American perspective,”\u00a0<\/em>Carlson told Fridman. “There\u2019s a war going on that is wrecking the US economy in a way and at a scale that people do not understand.” <\/strong>He also generally characterized the response of the US political class to the conflict, along with the American public which has uncritically followed, as\u00a0naive<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

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Carlson emphasized that what would be a cautiously realist approach was utterly abandoned by Washington from the start, as has been typical of the past decades of US interventionism abroad. “It doesn\u2019t even matter what I want to happen\u2026 that\u2019s a distortion of what is happening,”\u00a0Carlson explained, and pointed to Russia having 100 million more people and more defense industry might “than all of NATO combined.”<\/strong><\/p>\n

He described that a big part of the rationale behind the Putin interview was to bring “more information” to the West so that “people could make their own decisions about whether” escalation of weapons to Kiev<\/strong>\u00a0and jingoistic rhetoric from Western capitals is a good idea.<\/p>\n

Ultimately, he said, Americans are being lied to:<\/p>\n

“Just to be clear, I have no plans to move to Russia. I think I would probably be arrested if I moved to Russia. Ed Snowden, who is the most famous openness, transparency, advocate in the world, I would say along with Assange, doesn\u2019t want to live in Russia. He\u2019s had problems with the Putin government. He\u2019s attacked Putin. They don\u2019t like it. I get it. I get it. I\u2019m just saying, what are the lessons for us?<\/strong> <\/em><\/p>\n

The main lesson is we are being lied to in a way that\u2019s bewildering and very upsetting<\/strong>. I was mad about it all eight days I was there because I feel like I\u2019m better informed than most people because it\u2019s my job to be informed. I\u2019m skeptical of everything and yet I was completely hoodwinked by it.”<\/em><\/p>\n

Topics highlighted throughout the long-ranging conversion included Carlson’s personal take on being one-on-one with a seemingly “nervous” Putin, the question of ending the war in Ukraine, the role of the CIA and Western intelligence services, the prospect that the crisis could spiral into nuclear confrontation with the West, the Alexei Navalny saga, as well as a foray into the Israel-Palestine conflict near the end. Watch the full Carlson-Fridman interview below…<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

The following are some key excerpts of Tucker Carlson’s words from the interview<\/a>, selected by ZeroHedge [emphasis ours]<\/em>…<\/p>\n

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Carlson On Putin. “I want to know who this guy is.”<\/strong><\/p>\n

I thought he seemed nervous, and I was very surprised by that<\/em>. And I thought he seemed like someone who\u2019d overthought it a little bit, who had a plan, and I don\u2019t think that\u2019s the right way to go into any interview. My strong sense, having done a lot of them for a long time, is that it\u2019s better to know what you think, to say as much as you can honestly, so you don\u2019t get confused by your own lies, and just to be yourself. And I thought that he went into it like an over-prepared student, and I kept thinking, \u201cWhy is he nervous?\u201d But I guess because he thought a lot of people were going to see it<\/strong>…<\/p>\n

I mean, I asked him as I usually do the most obvious dumbest question ever, which is, \u201cWhy\u2019d you do this?\u201d And he had said in a speech that I think is worth reading. I don\u2019t speak Russian, so I haven\u2019t heard it in the original, but he had said at the moment of the beginning of the war, he had given this address to Russians, in which he explained to the fullest extent we have seen so far why he was doing this. And he said in that speech, \u201cI fear that NATO the West, the United States, the Biden administration will preemptively attack us.\u201d<\/strong> And I thought, \u201cWell, that\u2019s interesting.\u201d I can\u2019t evaluate whether that\u2019s a fear rooted in reality or one rooted in paranoia. But I thought, \u201cWell, that\u2019s an answer right there.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

And so I alluded to that in my question and rather than answering it, he went off on this long from my perspective, kind of tiresome, sort of greatest hits of Russian history<\/strong>. And the implication I thought was, \u201cWell, Ukraine is ours, or Eastern Ukraine is ours already.\u201d…<\/p>\n

I want to know who this guy is. I think a western audience, a global audience, has a right to know more about the guy<\/strong>, and so just let him talk. Because I don\u2019t feel like my reputation\u2019s on the line. People have already drawn conclusions about me, I suppose to the extent they have. I\u2019m not interested really in those conclusions anyway, so just let him talk. And so I calmed down and just let him talk. And in retrospect, I thought that was really, really interesting. Whether you agree with it or not, or whether you think it\u2019s relevant to the war in Ukraine or not, that was his answer. And so it\u2019s inherently significant.<\/p>\n

American falsehoods & the Ukraine war<\/strong><\/p>\n

I mean, I guess I reject the whole premise of the war in Ukraine from the American perspective<\/em><\/strong>, which is a tiny group of dumb people in Washington has decided to do this for reasons they won\u2019t really explain. And you don\u2019t have a role in it at all as an American citizen, as the person who\u2019s paying for it, whose children might be drafted to fight it. To shut up and obey, I just reject that completely. I think, I guess I\u2019m a child of a different era. I\u2019m a child of participatory democracy to some extent, where your opinion as a citizen is not irrelevant. And I guess the level of lying about it was starting to drive me crazy.<\/p>\n

The idea that Ukraine would inevitably win this war<\/strong>. Now victory was never, as it never is, defined precisely. Nothing\u2019s ever defined precisely, which is always to tell that there\u2019s deception at the heart of the claim. But Ukraine\u2019s on the verge of winning. Well, I don\u2019t know. I mean, I\u2019m hardly a tactician or military expert. For the fifth time, I\u2019m not an expert on Russia or Ukraine. I just looked at Wikipedia. Russia has a hundred million more people than Ukraine, a hundred million<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

It has much deeper industrial capacity, war material capacity than all of NATO combined<\/em><\/strong>. For example, Russia is turning out artillery shells, which are significant in a ground war at a ratio of seven to one compared to all NATO countries combined. That\u2019s all of Europe. Russia is producing seven times the artillery shells as all of Europe combined. What? That\u2019s an amazing fact, and it turns out to be a really significant fact. In fact, the significant fact. But if you ask your average person in this country, even a fairly well-informed person of good faith who\u2019s just trying to understand what\u2019s going on, who\u2019s going to win this war? Well, Ukraine\u2019s going to win. They\u2019re on the right side.<\/p>\n

…And I raised that question in my previous job, and I was denounced as of course a traitor or something. But okay, great, I\u2019m a traitor. What\u2019s the answer? What\u2019s the answer? [Vic]Toria Nuland, who I know, not dumb, hasn\u2019t helped the US in any way, an architect of the Iraq war, architect of this disaster, one of the people who destroyed the US dollar<\/strong>. Okay, fine, but you\u2019re not stupid. So you\u2019re trying to get a war by acting that way, what\u2019s the other explanation? By the way, NATO didn\u2019t want Ukraine because it didn\u2019t meet the criteria for admission. So why would you say that? Because you want a war, that\u2019s why. And that war has enriched a lot of people to the tune of billions<\/strong>. So I don\u2019t care if I sound like some kind of left-wing conspiracy nut, because I\u2019m neither left-wing nor a conspiracy nut. Tell me how I\u2019m wrong.<\/p>\n

On feeling sorry for Zelensky<\/strong><\/p>\n

If I\u2019m a Russian or a Ukrainian, let\u2019s just be sovereign countries now. We\u2019re not run by the U.S. State Department. We\u2019re just our own countries. I believe in sovereignty, okay? So that\u2019s my view<\/strong>. I also want to say one thing about Zelensky. I attacked him before because I was so offended by his cavalier talk about nuclear exchange because it would kill my family. So I\u2019m really offended by that. Anyone who talks that way I\u2019m offended by. But I do feel for Zelensky. I do. He didn\u2019t run for president to have this happen.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I think Zelensky\u2019s been completely misused by the State Department, by Toria Nuland<\/strong>, by our Secretary of State, by the policymakers in the U.S. who\u2019ve used Ukraine as a vessel for their ambitions, their geopolitical ambitions, but also the many American businesses who\u2019ve used Ukraine as a way to fleece the American taxpayer, and then by just independent ghouls like Boris Johnson who are hoping to get rich from interviews on it. The whole thing, Zelensky is at the center of this. He\u2019s not driving history. NATO and the United States is driving history. Putin is driving history. There\u2019s this guy, Zelensky. So I do feel for him, and I think he\u2019s in a perilous place<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

The prospect of nuclear war<\/strong><\/p>\n

Well it\u2019s been what, 80 years? Not even 80 years, 79. And so we haven\u2019t had a world war in 79 years. But one nuclear exchange would of course kill more people than all wars in human history combined<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

I am counting. Because I think it obviously, it\u2019s completely demonic<\/strong> and everyone pretends like it\u2019s great. Nuclear weapons are evil.<\/p>\n

The use of them is evil, and the technology itself is evil. And in my opinion, I mean, it\u2019s like if you can\u2019t, that\u2019s just so obvious. And what I\u2019m saying is I\u2019m not against all technology. I took a shower this morning. It was powered by an electric pump, heated by a water heater. I loved it. I sat in an electric sauna. I\u2019m not against all technology, obviously, but the mindless worship of technology?<\/em><\/p>\n

The possibility of Russia-Ukraine Peace: Putin “wants a settlement”<\/strong><\/p>\n

He [Putin] wants a settlement, he wants a settlement<\/em>. He doesn\u2019t want to fight with them rhetorically and he just wants to get this done. He made a bunch of offers at the peace deal. We wouldn\u2019t even know this happened if the Israelis hadn\u2019t told us. I\u2019m so grateful that they did that, that Johnson was dispatched by the State Department to stop it. I mean, I think Boris Johnson is a husk of a man. But imagine if you were Boris Johnson and you spend your whole life with Ukraine flag, \u201cI\u2019m for Ukraine,\u201d and then all those kids died because of what you did, and the lines haven\u2019t really moved<\/strong>. It hasn\u2019t been a victory for Ukraine. It\u2019s not going to be a victory for Ukraine. It\u2019s like, how do you feel about yourself if you did that? I mean, I\u2019ve done a lot of shitty things in my life, I feel bad about them, but I\u2019ve never extended a war for no reason. That\u2019s a pretty grave sin in my opinion.<\/p>\n

Well, the U.S. government\u2019s not allowing negotiations<\/strong>. So that for me is the most upsetting part. It\u2019s like in the end, what Russia does, I\u2019m not implicated in that. What Ukraine does, I\u2019m not implicated in that. I\u2019m not Russian or Ukrainian. I\u2019m an American who grew up really believing in my country. I\u2019m supporting my country through my tax dollars. It\u2019s like I really care about what the U.S. government does because they\u2019re doing it in my name, and I care a lot because I\u2019m American. We are the impediment to peace, which is another way of saying we are responsible for all these innocent people getting dragooned out of public parks in Kiev and sent to go die. What? That is not good. I\u2019m ashamed of it.<\/p>\n

On the Alexey Navalny saga<\/strong><\/p>\n

Well, it\u2019s awful. I mean, imagine dying in prison<\/em>. I\u2019ve thought about it a lot. I\u2019ve known a lot of people in prison a lot, including some very good friends of mine. So I felt instantly sad about it. From a geopolitical perspective, I don\u2019t know any more than that. And I laugh at and sort of resent, but mostly find amusing the claims by American politicians, who really are the dumbest politicians in the world actually, \u201cThis happened and here\u2019s what it means.\u201d And it\u2019s like, \u201cActually as a factual matter, we don\u2019t know what happened. We don\u2019t know what happened.\u201d We have no freaking idea what happened. We can say, and I did say, and I will say again, I don\u2019t think you should put opposition figures in prison<\/strong>. I really don\u2019t. I don\u2019t, period. It happens a lot around the world, happens in this country, as you know, and I\u2019m against all of it.<\/p>\n

But do we know how we died? The short answer? No, we don\u2019t. Now, if I had to guess, I would say killing Navalny during the Munich Security Conference in the middle of a debate over $60 billion in Ukraine funding, maybe the Russians are dumb<\/strong>. I didn\u2019t get that vibe at all. I don\u2019t see it<\/strong>. But maybe they killed him. I mean, they certainly put him in prison, which I\u2019m against. But here\u2019s what I do know is that we don\u2019t know. And so when Chuck Schumer stands up and… Joe Biden reads some card in front of him with lines about Navalny, it\u2019s like, I\u2019m allowed to laugh at that because it\u2019s absurd<\/strong>. You don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

An interesting CIA anecdote<\/strong><\/p>\n

I was like, live in foreign countries, see history happen. I\u2019m for that. I applied to the Operations Directorate. They turned me down on the basis of drug use actually. True. But anyway, whatever. I was unsuited for it so I\u2019m glad they turned me down. But the point is I didn\u2019t see CIA as a threat, partly because I was bathing in propaganda about CIA and I didn\u2019t really understand what it was and didn\u2019t want to know<\/strong>. But second, because my impression at the time was it was outwardly focused. It was focused on our enemies. I don\u2019t have a problem with that as much. The fact that CIA is playing in domestic politics and actually has for a long time, was involved in the Kennedy assassination, that\u2019s not speculation<\/strong>. That\u2019s a fact. And I confirmed that from someone who had read their documents that are still not public, it\u2019s shocking.<\/p>\n

You can\u2019t have that. And the reason I\u2019m so mad is I really believe in the idea of representative government. Acknowledging its imperfections, but I should have some say, I live here, I\u2019m a citizen. I pay all your freaking taxes. So the fact that they would be tampering with American democracy is so outrageous to me. And I don\u2019t know why Morning Joe is not outraged. This parade of dummies, highly credentialed dummies they have on Morning Joe every day. That doesn\u2019t bother them at all. How could that not bother you? Why is only Glenn Greenwald mad about it?<\/strong> I mean, it\u2019s confirmed. It\u2019s not like a fever dream. It\u2019s real. They played in the last election domestically, and I guess it shows how dumb I am because they\u2019ve been doing that for many years. I mean, the guy who took out Mosaddegh lived on my street. One of the Roosevelt’s, CIA officer<\/strong>.<\/p>\n

Carlson on the Israel-Palestine conflict<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u00a0I mean, it\u2019s not a topic that I get into a lot because I\u2019m a non-expert and because I\u2019m not\u2026 Unlike every other American, I\u2019m not emotionally invested in other countries just in general<\/strong>. I mean, I admire them or not, and I love visiting them. I love Jerusalem, probably my favorite city in the world, but I don\u2019t have an emotional attachment to it. So maybe I\u2019ve got more clarity. I don\u2019t know, maybe less. Here\u2019s my view. I believe in sovereignty as mentioned, and I think each country has to make decisions based on its own interest, but also with reference to its own capabilities and its own long-term interest.<\/p>\n

And it\u2019s very unwise for\u2026 I\u2019m not a huge fan of treaties. Some are fine, too many bad. But I think US aid, military aid to Israel and the implied security guarantees, some explicit, but many implied, security guarantees of the United States to Israel probably haven\u2019t helped Israel that much long-term<\/strong>. It\u2019s a rich country with a highly capable population. Like every other country, it\u2019s probably best if it makes its decisions based on what it can do by itself. So I would definitely be concerned if I lived in Israel because I think fair or unfair-<\/p>\n

But now it\u2019s not possible. If you had a coalition of countries against Israel, I know Israel has nuclear weapons and has a capable military and all that and the backing of the United States, but it\u2019s a small country, I think I\u2019d be very worried. So there\u2019s that. I don\u2019t see any advantage to the United States. I mean, I think it\u2019s important for each country to make its own decisions.<\/p>\n

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This week there’s been a curious story to emerge in Russian state media sources involving a bizarre ‘assassination plot’ linked to Kiev, which allegedly was supposed to target Carlson while he was in Russia. Interestingly, the allegations have been picked up in major Indian media outlets, among some other international outlets, though it warrants a high degree of skepticism…<\/p>\n

A man has been arrested by security services here in Moscow for plotting an assassination attempt on Tucker Carlson<\/p>\n

The man is from Podolsk and says he was acting on instructions from Ukraines SBU. He claims he was promised $4,000 for “successfully completing the task” (bombing\u2026 pic.twitter.com\/SCDSKGgeHS<\/a><\/p>\n

\u2014 Chay Bowes (@BowesChay) February 26, 2024<\/a><\/p>\n

Would Ukraine be this stupid? I doubt it. \ud83e\udd37\ud83c\udffb\u200d\u2642\ufe0f https:\/\/t.co\/fkZ41v65gC<\/a><\/p>\n

\u2014 Aaron Mat\u00e9 (@aaronjmate) February 26, 2024<\/a>\n<\/div>\n

Tyler Durden<\/a><\/span>
\nWed, 02\/28\/2024 – 20:40<\/span><\/p>\n

\u200bRead More<\/a>\u00a0<\/p>\n

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